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IFIELD BROOK MEADOWS & BEYOND - "THE SPIRIT OF KINDER SCOUT"



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Richard W. Post subject: IFIELD BROOK MEADOWS & BEYOND - "THE SPIRIT OF KINDER SCOUT"Posted: 2009-06-30, 11:37:16 pm



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Posts: 4373 http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?sec ... 143825&c=0

HCA to offer contractors land for housing

30 June, 2009

By Michael Willoughby

Agency to tempt new building firms into housing market with land for equity deal

The Homes and Communities Agency has announced plan to give contractors the chance to build an initial 500 homes on public land in exchange for an equity share in any development.

The announcement comes as part of a £1.5bn tranche of funding for social housing announced yesterday as part of Gordon Brown’s policy re-launch, Building Britain’s Future.

Bob Kerslake, HCA chief executive, said contractors including Bouygues, Skanska and Wates could take part. He said: “The model is where we go in as an equity partner and put land in as part of the equity.” The land could be that owned by the HCA or owned by other public sector bodies.

“We are looking for a development partner to take a lower level of risk because they are not funding the land upfront but we want them to take a lower rate of return.

“A number have said in the current market: ‘we definitely settle for a situation with less working capital tied up and working in joint partnership with you, but have more security albeit at a lower rate of return.’”

Kerslake added: “You know the sorts of companies that I am talking about – the Bouygues, the Skanskas and the Wates.”

He added: “Public sector landowners of all kinds have expressed interest and the HCA has major land ownings of its own to contribute that will ensure we make rapid progress.”

The HCA will hold workshops with interested parties “this side of the summer,” said Kerslake.

The money, which includes £750m for the National Affordable Housing Programme, £500m more for Kickstart schemes and £250m more for new local authority-led council homes, is to come from a mix of redirected communities department funding and cash from “capital underspend” in other departments during this and next year.

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Richard W. Post subject: Re: HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY (IFIELD)Posted: 2009-07-01, 11:32:57 am



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 As I read it at the moment, HCA are Government Developers (as opposed to Private Developers), which hands out Public Land to Private Developers - at a price.





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Richard W. Post subject: Re: HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY (IFIELD)Posted: 2009-07-01, 04:33:41 pm



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 CRAWLEY OBSERVER LETTER - TODAY - JULY 1 2009

http://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/your-l ... 5414544.jp





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Richard W. Post subject: Re: HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY (IFIELD)Posted: 2009-07-09, 10:28:24 pm



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 Dear All

I am forwarding this from Philip Marsh of the Homes and Communities Agency to Cllr Keith Blake (Borough for Gossops Green and County for Ifield & Gossops Green, and on the County Rights of Way Committee!) regarding the removal of a gate and its replacement by a fence at the rear of the Ifield Barn Car Park very recently.

Earlier today, I contacted Cllr Blake after talking to Mr Marsh about this (in response to an email from Linda Newman) and also pointed out various confusions eg that CBC's well publicised 'Greenway' south of the Church is not on the Public Right Of Way Map and nor are the network of footpaths regularly cut by CBC - the implication being that HCA would feel that we are not entitled to walk on them, and presumably that CBC should not be encouraging us to do so!

Geraint Thomas

PS Please feel free to forward this on
PPS Mr Marsh seems quite knowledgeable about the area and is approachable on the phone - his email address is immediately below:

From: Philip Marsh
To: keith.blake@westsussex.gov.uk

Dear Mr Blake,

Following a phone call received from Mr Geraint Thomas on your behalf regarding our signage at Ifield and asking why we have removed the swing gate located at the rear of Ifield Barn Theatre?, I thought it would be helpful if I responded to you direct.

The HCA inherited this land from the former English Partnerships on 1 April 2009 and it is our policy to sign the boundaries of HCA land holdings to make land ownership clear to our partners and local residents.

We are required also to make it clear that not withstanding any Public Rights of Way the land is owned by the Homes and Communities Agency. We can confirm also that public access is restricted to the public Rights of Way only crossing the land holding.

The reason for the removal of the swing gate from behind Ifield Barn Theatre is that the Public Right of Way is located the other side between the Theatre and the pond and the gated access at this point will remain in place.

Where Rights of Way exist HCA has undertaken improvement works and will continue to maintain these routes and in many areas the stiles have been replaced with gates in accordance with West Sussex County Councils' request and policy.

Regards

Philip Marsh
Assistant Land Manager - AMES
Milton Keynes
Tel. 01908 353624
Fax. 01908 353694
Mob. 07979 516444





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Richard W. Post subject: Re: HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY (IFIELD)Posted: 2009-07-09, 10:38:44 pm



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 Richard W. wrote:
"It is our policy...to make land ownership clear...We are required also to make it clear that...the land is owned by the Homes and Communities Agency. We can confirm also that public access is restricted to the Public Rights of Way only...Where Rights of Way exist HCA...will continue to maintain these routes..."
Homes and Communities Agency


So however "approachable" HCA may be, they are not budging an inch from their official position - already made clear by the wording of their "Private Land" signs, littered about this ancient Parish.

As I read it, this newly-created Government Quango is clearly saying to us "the law" is what they decide, and can interpret that "law" as it chooses.

That, ladies & gentlemen, is TOTALITARIANISM - not Democracy...and the last I heard, we were aspiring to the latter - not the former.

"Don't let it happen. It depends on you" (the last-known words of George '1984' Orwell).

We, in this community, have a choice. We can either let them take control - especially the space between our ears. Or we can take control - especially the space between our ears...and fight them legally every which way.

Please email me at any time - with comments, ideas, suggestions, criticisms etc : richardsy5@aol.com

You can, of course, register on this Forum if you wish (but there has been a few problems with registration). If problems, please just email me.

Thanks

Richard Symonds
THE IFIELD SOCIETY

Further Information
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Richard W. Post subject: Re: THE HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY (HCA) - IN IFIELD PARISHPosted: 2009-07-09, 11:47:05 pm



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 For those interested, my personal view is that Ifield Brook Meadows is NOT Private Land - it's Public Land (& maybe even parts being Common Land).

If this ancient area - with its 1000-year recorded history - is Public Land, then the HCA signs are legally illegitimate - and should be taken down with immediate effect.

Also, a powerful legal case could be made that the instruction to keep dogs on the lead, on "marked" (?) paths - especially in Ifield Brook Meadows - is totally "unreasonable". We might be required to obey "reasonable" instructions from those with power over us, but not instructions which are "unreasonable".

Also, HCA (& 'Partners') appear to be indulging in highly questionable activities at present - 'sprucing up' Registered WSCC Footpaths/Footbridges/Stiles, but 'destroying evidence' on Unregistered Footpaths, by dismantling Footbridges & Stiles - especially those made by the Horley & Crawley Project and Greenway.

The completion of these Forms - to register unregistered footpaths which have been used for centuries - therefore becomes the very highest priority in this community.





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Richard W. Post subject: Re: THE HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY - IN IFIELD BROOK MEADOWSPosted: 2009-07-10, 10:46:33 am



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 Dear Richard,

I assume you have read this quote on the H&CA website in relation to Crawley?

http://www.englishpartnerships.co.uk/crawley.htm

“English Partnerships is committed to the ongoing regeneration of Crawley and continues to work with Crawley Borough Council to identify opportunities for redevelopment and expansion.

The agency has other significant landholdings in the Crawley area, which includes the north-east sector, Ifield Court Farm and Rowley Farm. Two of these landholdings provide an opportunity for major residential development, which would benefit from the town centre expansion.”

I was apparently wrong in assuming they would not build houses in the area where BAA will offer to compensate home owners for ‘blight’, if the second runway goes ahead after 2019.

It now occurs to me that if all houses built within the potential 2019 airport noise zone are ‘social housing’ as opposed to freehold, perhaps it will be the freeholder, i.e. Homes and Communities Agency, who will be eligible for the compensation.

John





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Richard W. Post subject: Re: THE HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY - IN IFIELD BROOK MEADOWSPosted: 2009-07-10, 11:24:56 am



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 WHY DO I GET THIS FEELING THE COUNCILS' (WSCC/HDC/CBC) - UNDER THEIR FORTHCOMING CORE STRATEGY REVIEWS - WILL NOW DECLARE THEY ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THE WHOLE OF "WEST OF IFIELD" (INCL. IFIELD GOLF CLUB/WELBECK & IFIELD BROOK MEADOWS/HCA) ?

AS PER WSCC LOCAL STRUCTURE PLAN 10 YEARS AGO - FUNNY THAT

PUBLIC CONSULTATIONS ?

YEAH, RIGHT.

MASONIC CONNECTIONS MORE LIKE.





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Richard W. Post subject: Re: THE HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY - IN IFIELD BROOK MEADOWSPosted: 2009-07-10, 11:20:25 pm



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 I lost our rough collie, "Lucy", in Ifield Brook Meadows this evening. She bolted when loud bangs rang out - Shooting Clay-Pigeons ? Shooting Rabbits ? Automated Shooters - such as those used at Gatwick to clear birds from the runway ?

I don't know - but I'm going to find out.

I know our dog is not alone in totally 'losing it', when shots are heard - or fireworks explode. Last week she was literally 'climbing the walls' in our front room when some fireworks went off. She was shaking uncontrollably, absolutely petrified.

If I find this is another tactic to clear the area of dog-walkers, I will take whoever's responsible to court - whatever it takes.

We have spent the whole evening trying to find our dog. Lucy has just been returned home by some teenagers - she had a tag - who found her wandering aimlessly around.

I didn't ask where. We are just eternally thankful to the teenagers - and beyond delighted to have her back home safe.





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Richard W. Post subject: Re: THE HOMES AND COMMUNITIES AGENCY - IN IFIELD BROOK MEADOWSPosted: 2009-07-11, 01:16:52 pm



Joined: 2007-10-31, 11:00:34 am
Posts: 4373 Oh dear, we had the 'ramblette' this morning - looking at the destruction of stiles/gates/bridges on unregistered paths - and someone has managed to uproot one of the HCA signs and dump it in the river.

Whilst I do not condone such action, I can understand the reasons why someone should take such action.

Anyway, a meeting has been organised on Friday July 31 at 7pm - outside the Plough. It will be an opportunity to bring along the WSCC Rights of Way "Evidence Forms' - among other things.





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